[phileysmiley]

John is correct. It is a basic tenet of historians. I learned it in high school. Every author has an agenda. They just do. They have to. They have lives they live, a background of experiences, friends, family, maybe a body of work under their belts. They don't view events in a vacuum. Their views are unique to them and whatever their perspective is lends them a bias. A writer cannot be totally objective if he is human. That should always be taken into consideration when examining one's writings. It doesn't mean the work is not factual, just that the way the facts are presented always has some bias.

[Kril'ya]

And why "white"? What has that got to do with anything at all?

[phileysmiley]

And why "white"? What has that got to do with anything at all?

Yeah, really...what is that about?

[johnliscomb]

Yes, knock a book that you have never picked up and did any research on.

A good portion of it is spent just reprinting what others have said about Moore. Here is the clincher though, they are typically liberal Democrats. Often times they don't even like MM because he is a LIAR.

[ginogsm]

>>When it comes to war planning and sending thousands of soldiers for a joyride to Iraq then it IS a crime not to be able to fortell , not the future , but how this war will turn out. How come those C. Intelligence A. could have plenty of info about WMD and not about the possible ressistance , the real army of Saddam and what the Iraqi people really want in order to start - a procedure called in the army - psychological war - that includes propaganda , friendly to the public messages and even brain wash and some short of lies - which assures an Army Leader that his men will not be more harmed than the minimum.<<

Perhaps we should expect him to pick our lucky lotto numbers as well?

You can have the best planners and strategists in the world but that doesn't mean they can quantify the most unpredictable element of all. HUMANS.

Extremmely wrong.

When it comes to War and you are the leader of such an Army Force then you have to predict and fortell even the Lotto numbers when it comes to security of the troops.

Also a good leader MUST and HAS to be able to justify the possible reactions of humans. After all we don't talk about just human elements around but either an organised army ( Iraq ) or an organised ressistance.

[johnliscomb]

>>Extremmely wrong.

When it comes to War and you are the leader of such an Army Force then you have to predict and fortell even the Lotto numbers when it comes to security of the troops.

Also a good leader MUST and HAS to be able to justify the possible reactions of humans. After all we don't talk about just human elements around but either an organised army ( Iraq ) or an organised ressistance.<<

NO. You want to hold someone to a standard of PERFECTION. Not only is that unfair but that is also insane. No one is perfect People make mistakes. When the stakes are high, sometimes even bigger mistakes are made. It may not be pretty but sometimes thats life.

DEAL WITH IT.

[ginogsm]

Since you want to put it this way :

I don't have to deal with it. I haven't lost any of my friends or relatives or brothers and sisters. If you justify the loss of so many young people on behalf of your President ( just for the shake of not seeing your President being wrong ) then so be it.

I was just stating the facts and the way an Army Force expects its leaders to lead it. I was also pionting out the facts on behalf of my rank ( Lieutenant ) and not as a man that just talks.

I guess you critisized these statements based on some experience of yours ?

[Kril'ya]

Yes, knock a book that you have never picked up and did any research on.

A good portion of it is spent just reprinting what others have said about Moore. Here is the clincher though, they are typically liberal Democrats. Often times they don't even like MM because he is a LIAR.

I'm knocking it on simple bits of principle that are basically unrelated to the content, ergo I'm safe.

[kanaloa]

If you justify the loss of so many young people on behalf of your President ( just for the shake of not seeing your President being wrong ) then so be it.

Exactly.... the lives we are giving for the equivilant of nothing just makes me sick.

[ginogsm]

And it is even worse when we can't see the facts , John.