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Fresh x64 Vista Install; Drive Letter Confusion; No Dual-Boot

Postby davisford » Sun Feb 25, 2007 2:05 am

Hello...I'm hoping someone may have some insight to this problem. Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

I just did a clean install of Vista Ultimate on AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 4400+, 3GB RAM.

I installed the OS on the C: partition, primary boot partition. I have a number of other data only partitions with drive letters like D, E, F, etc.

Things were working fine until I installed some Blackberry desktop software. After a reboot, I hit the terminal BOOTMGR not found message.

I popped the DVD back in and tried a rollback to before the blackberry software was installed. In the Restore/Repair menu of the DVD, I noticed that Windows somehow switched the D and C drive letters. It now thought that drive D contained the Boot folder and the OS, and drive C was just some data. The rollback actually fixed the problem (temporarily). I was able to boot back into Vista.

I continued installed various applications, but noticed that upon a reboot, I would hit this terminal BOOTMGR not found again. So, I'd do a rollback again. I searched the net and foound your software VistaBootPRO. I installed the latest, 3.1.0. When I launch it, I get this weird message:

VistaBootPro has detected that either Microsoft Windows Vista is not currently installed, or you may have an irregular drive configuration. In order to use all the features of this application, Windows Vista must be installed.


But when I open it up, it indeed finds Vista OS installed on C: I tried running Diagnostics..no problems found. Manage OS Entries only shows Vista.

After several reboots I notice that I have to have the Vista DVD in the DVD-ROM in order to boot. If I don't, it gives me BOOTMGR not found.

I just noticed now that when I run VistaBootPRO, it is telling me this:

Windows Boot Manager
--------------------
identifier {bootmgr}
device partition=D:
description Windows Boot Manager
locale en-US
inherit {globalsettings}
default {current}
resumeobject {e606d86f-c457-11db-be8b-8bafa7d890ca}
displayorder {current}
toolsdisplayorder {memdiag}
timeout 30

Windows Boot Loader
-------------------
identifier {current}
device partition=C:
path \Windows\system32\winload.exe
description Microsoft Windows Vista
locale en-US
inherit {bootloadersettings}
osdevice partition=C:
systemroot \Windows
resumeobject {e606d86f-c457-11db-be8b-8bafa7d890ca}
nx OptIn
custom:47000005 301989892
3

Resume from Hibernate
---------------------
identifier {e606d86f-c457-11db-be8b-8bafa7d890ca}
device partition=C:
path \Windows\system32\winresume.exe
description Windows Resume Application
locale en-US
inherit {resumeloadersettings}
filedevice partition=C:
filepath \hiberfil.sys
debugoptionenabled No

Windows Memory Tester
---------------------
identifier {memdiag}
device partition=D:
path \boot\memtest.exe
description Windows Memory Diagnostic
locale en-US
inherit {globalsettings}
badmemoryaccess Yes
custom:47000005 301989892
2

EMS Settings
------------
identifier {emssettings}
bootems Yes

Debugger Settings
-----------------
identifier {dbgsettings}
debugtype Serial
debugport 1
baudrate 115200

RAM Defects
-----------
identifier {badmemory}

Global Settings
---------------
identifier {globalsettings}
inherit {dbgsettings}
{emssettings}
{badmemory}

Boot Loader Settings
--------------------
identifier {bootloadersettings}
inherit {globalsettings}

Resume Loader Settings
----------------------
identifier {resumeloadersettings}
inherit {globalsettings}


This is totally annoying. I will restore the Vista BootMgr again, but why does it keep thinking that D: is where the boot manager is located?

Please help...

Thanks,
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Postby yeshuas » Sun Feb 25, 2007 2:24 am

Can you post a pic of your disk management window
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Postby davisford » Sun Feb 25, 2007 2:37 am

yeshuas wrote:Can you post a pic of your disk management window


Howdy -- not sure exactly how to post an image on here, so I created a dummy blog page, and posted the image there -> http://davis-images.blogspot.com/
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Postby yeshuas » Sun Feb 25, 2007 2:48 am

hang on
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Postby yeshuas » Sun Feb 25, 2007 2:53 am

did you have another operating system prior to the clean install and where was it?
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Postby Grav!ty » Sun Feb 25, 2007 3:25 am

Drive D is your system drive so that is where the boot files will be located for both XP and Vista

Set you folder options to show hidden files and folders and not to hide protected operating system files files and then you should find the following files on drive D which are the minimum that Vista and XP need for booting:

For Windows XP:
NTDETECT.COM
ntldr
boot.ini

For Windows Vista:
Boot (folder plus contents)
bootmgr

Make sure those are all on the system drive - copy and paste those that aren't to the system drive (drive D in your case) and then use VistaBootPRO to "Reinstall the Vista bootloader" from the Bootloader page. This should get you booting to both operating systems again.

I'm going to move this thread to the Vista Chat & Support Forum as it does not discuss a problem with VistaBootPRO.
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Postby yeshuas » Sun Feb 25, 2007 3:34 am

I got the impression that you only have Vista on this machine. Are you trying to dual boot Vista and XP?
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Postby davisford » Sun Feb 25, 2007 1:45 pm

yeshuas wrote:did you have another operating system prior to the clean install and where was it?


Yes, I used to have Windows XP Pro x64, and it was on the same partition as C:

When I installed Vista, I formatted that partition, and installed a clean Vista copy on it.

I am not trying to dual-boot anything. I only want Vista on here.
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Postby davisford » Sun Feb 25, 2007 1:56 pm

Grav!ty wrote:Drive D is your system drive so that is where the boot files will be located for both XP and Vista

Set you folder options to show hidden files and folders and not to hide protected operating system files files and then you should find the following files on drive D which are the minimum that Vista and XP need for booting:

For Windows XP:
NTDETECT.COM
ntldr
boot.ini

For Windows Vista:
Boot (folder plus contents)
bootmgr

Make sure those are all on the system drive - copy and paste those that aren't to the system drive (drive D in your case) and then use VistaBootPRO to "Reinstall the Vista bootloader" from the Bootloader page. This should get you booting to both operating systems again.

I'm going to move this thread to the Vista Chat & Support Forum as it does not discuss a problem with VistaBootPRO.


Hi, thanks for the tip. I turned on hidden files, and indeed, I see that D: does have the Boot folder and the BootMgr. I have no clue as to why this is. I am not trying to dual-boot XP here. I formatted drive C: and installed a clean instance of Vista on partition C:. I am very puzzled as to how the BootMgr got installed to drive D:. Before the format, drive C: also contained the OS (Windows XP Pro x64). Drive D: has never contained an OS in the lifespan of this computer.

I tried to copy the Boot folder and BootMgr to drive C: and use VistaBootPRO to restore the boot mgr, but I can't get it to switch to drive C:. Is there some way to do this?[/b]
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Postby yeshuas » Sun Feb 25, 2007 2:18 pm

davisford wrote:
yeshuas wrote:did you have another operating system prior to the clean install and where was it?


Yes, I used to have Windows XP Pro x64, and it was on the same partition as C:

When I installed Vista, I formatted that partition, and installed a clean Vista copy on it.

I am not trying to dual-boot anything. I only want Vista on here.


Originally you had XP 64 on C. What was on D at that time? Did you have program files from XP 64 on D?

I am afraid that it would have been better to have deleted the C partition, created a new partition and then format, and then have installed.

It sounds like you have some orphan files from the previous XP 64 install.
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