[JabbaPapa]

Something tells me in order to continue building on already such complex OS'es we're going to need to rewrite nearly everything from scratch. Because there's only so long you can build on something before fundamental problems force you to go back to the drawing board

Windows Vista and especially Windows 7 have in fact taken just that path

Windows 7 uses a tiny Windows kernel called MinWin -- this is not *included* in the OS, but the OS has been built upon MinWin, ie it's more or less MinWin with a whole bunch of added features and modules.

In XP, if you switch off a feature, it still gets at least partially loaded when you boot because it's part of that complex interlinked OS

In Vista somewhat, but especially in W7, disabling a feature can cause it to NOT be loaded at all during boot.

And btw thanks for the insights into the file systems

[Cornflake]

Yes, I've heard of MinWin. BTW, here's the link to that blog I was referring to: http://thebs413.blogspot.com/2005_08_01 ... chive.html

Although I appreciate the initiative to start from scratch, I much rather would have seen WinFS come along before the new sound system.

The one thing that really sucks about starting over, is at some point you can't retain backwards compatibility. And the only real option is emulation... but there can be big disadvantages to it. First is missing features and second is performance. A good example, is a game like DOOM. If you run it emulated in Windows, the amount of CPU time to do it is enormous, somtimes 100x more than what you would need to run it natevely... turning our fast multi-GHz computers into something that can barely handle code over 12 years old. Plus, you'd be lucky to find an emulator that will run your program at all.

The significance of this is really simple: If you're going to rewrite something, there benefits have to outweigh the disadvantages. in Vista MS did such a quick redo job here and there, that there's really not much to be gained. That's not the way you wanna play it after waiting five years to update your OS. All that really came out of it were steps-backwards. They'd have been better of waiting until W7 to implement some of these things, IMO.

Sorry for the rant and philosophy and all -- this might sound like I'm kind of learning this all for the first time, and I am. As I really started getting into PCs when XP first came out, the first OS I used that I really started to learn technical details about has been around for a long time. These things are going to be a big change!

[_Taz_]

did this get resolved along the way? sounds like WMI has gotten messed up (systeminfo needs wmi running to collect information

[Cornflake]

No, I haven't gotten it working again yet.

[Cornflake]

did this get resolved along the way? sounds like WMI has gotten messed up (systeminfo needs wmi running to collect information

Can you specify what WMI is? Is it a service?

Thanks

[gries818]

did this get resolved along the way? sounds like WMI has gotten messed up (systeminfo needs wmi running to collect information

Can you specify what WMI is? Is it a service?

Thanks

I think it's Windows Management Instrumentation.

[Cornflake]

Just thought I'd update: I just made sure both WMI services were running; I still can't run systeminfo.

It just accepts the command and gives me a new path line like it thinks it completed the task.

[_Taz_]

maybe it's running but not correctly. try a quick reinstall of WMI, here a script I found.

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net stop winmgmt

pause

c:

cd c:\windows\system32\wbem

rd /S /Q repository

regsvr32 /s %systemroot%\system32\scecli.dll

regsvr32 /s %systemroot%\system32\userenv.dll

mofcomp cimwin32.mof

mofcomp cimwin32.mfl

mofcomp rsop.mof

mofcomp rsop.mfl

for /f %%s in ('dir /b /s *.dll') do regsvr32 /s %%s

for /f %%s in ('dir /b *.mof') do mofcomp %%s

for /f %%s in ('dir /b *.mfl') do mofcomp %%s

mofcomp exwmi.mof

mofcomp -n:root\cimv2\applications\exchange wbemcons.mof

mofcomp -n:root\cimv2\applications\exchange smtpcons.mof

mofcomp exmgmt.mof

just run it from a batch file in dos window

[airwolf]

or go to start-->run type in cmd than when the window opens write systeminfo and it will collect the info worked for me

P.S. thanks first time i tried it